“20-inch” and “notebook” are two words that should probably be never used together in a single sentence. This computer gives new meaning to “the straw that broke the camel’s back”, but on the bright side, the camel can enjoy a feast of entertainment choices on this somewhat portable powerhouse.
A HP PR representative sent me an email asking if I was interesting in participating in a bloggers program to test drive Hewlett-Packard’s new Pavilion HDX9000 Series entertainment notebook PC, otherwise known as the “Dragon”. Being a sucker for freebies I gladly accepted. And today it arrived.
Disclaimer: This notebook is on-loan from HP for purpose of this review, playing games, watching movies, smudging and weight lifting. For that reason, my judgment on how awesome it is may be impaired. However, trust me on one thing, it doesn’t make it any smaller.
The pre-production model I received has inside:
- CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 (2.4GHz) (engineering sample)
- Memory: 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300
- Hard disk: 2x160GB Seagate Momentus 5400.3
- Graphics: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB
- Display: 20.1″ widescreen Ultra Brightview LCD (1680×1050)
- Optical: LG SuperMulti CD/DVD (Dual layer) LightScribe burner
- Wireless: Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AG
- Ethernet: Marvell Gigabit Ethernet
- Bluetooth: HP Integrated Module with Bluetooth 2.0
- Audio: SigmaTel High Definition Audio
- Tuner: Built-in HDTV DVB-T & Analog dual tuner
- Battery: 9 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
- Connectors: 4xUSB, 2xheadset jack, 1xmicrophone jack, 1xIR receiver, 1xIR emitter jack, 1xS-video-in jack, 1xTV antenna jack, 4xaudio jack, 1xHDMI, 1xeSATA, 1xFirewire, 1xethernet, 1xExpressCard, 1xVGA, 1xExpansion Port 3, 1xcard reader (SD, MS/Pro, MMC, XD)
- Speakers: 4 Altec Lansing audio speakers with integrated subwoofer
- Accessories: integrated webcam, detachable media remote, integrated microphone
This setup scores itself a Windows Experience Index of 4.7. Unfortunately the 5400rpm hard disks and memory pulls down the overall score from above 5. More on performance later.
If you haven’t gathered already, the “Dragon” is a desktop replacement notebook. The “notebook” part of this computer is only used to describe its slim-line and foldable form factor. If you want to move this machine around, you can, but you’ll want to put it on a hardy surface for long-term use. The 20-inch widescreen display doesn’t fold away like an origami, so the size of the body is just as wide, which leaves an enormous footprint. It is also quite heavy, weighing about 7kgs, which has the positive side-effect of stabilizing itself. There’s no way you could nudge it without lifting any of the 9 rubber foots. You definitely don’t want to carry this anywhere in a backpack, even if you can find a backpack to fit it. None of the standard laptop bags I have could fit it.
Based on the logic “you get out what you put in”, you can imagine how much juice this machine sucks. Many of the other reviews have described how big the power brick is. I thought they were just exaggerating, but they weren’t.
Lately HP has been working their industrial designers pretty hard to come up with some refreshing designs for their new-generation PCs (ex. TouchSmart) and their hard work really shows in the details.
Subtle stylized line-art covers the entire back-cover and front metallic panel gives it an unique finish up-close.
The coated gloss finish also serves as a surface for oil-based finger paintings.
The remote clicks in perfectly beside the keyboard and can be removed easily by sliding a slider on the right. The neat thing is that it also works whilst docked in the keyboard, even though it’s not pointing at the IR receiver on the front.
A range of indicators with cool blue LEDs line up the top of the keyboard.
A fingerprint scanner sits directly in the middle of this row. Right-handed users like myself might feel this is a little uncomfortable to use since it’s so far left in relative to where the right-hand usually lies.
And the coolest thing is that they’re touch-sensitive using capacitive technology. To turn on or off the wireless, simply tap the wireless indicator. To change the volume, simply drag your finger across the volume bar left or right.
Not only does it look cool, this touchpad feels much smoother to use than a traditional touchpad. The dedicated vertical scrollpad is a huge plus. Special note, this touchpad also work if your fingers are wet. Traditional touchpads don’t work if you’ve just washed your hands, this one has no problems picking up wet fingers.
I also really like the mouse buttons for the touchpad. Having used some clunky buttons in the past which don’t really quite click unless you click the absolutely middle and when you do click they make a loud sound, these large and rounded buttons make very little noise and are extremely soft to click.
The integrated webcam sits neatly inside the top bevel of the display screen. Because it is embedded into the panel, it only allows for slight vertical tilt adjustments.
To top it all off, a light-up HP logo on the back panel.
There’s even room to draw my own stickers. Just kidding. This pre-production sample is missing stickers.
The screen is held up by two hinges which act independently to control tilt and angle. What it allows is the screen to face up without going ‘behind’ the keyboard. However because the hinges don’t have any ‘locks’, if you touch the screen, it will move. The screen also doesn’t ‘sit’ on the bottom panel, so it floats a few millimeters in the air. It will however not move by itself – the hinge will hold its position if you don’t touch it.
So much of this machine is the display, both by size and by feature, so the expectation is set pretty high.
This photo doesn’t do the screen justice, but I’m glad to say this is a gorgeous display. The warm-up time is really amazing, taking only just a few seconds before reaching full brightness. I don’t have the brightness or contrast specifications with me, but the whites are bright, blacks are dark and the colors are really vivid. The viewing angle is very good as well reaching around 160 degrees horizontally. There was only a small amount of light leak at the top and bottom of the display, which can be seen if you paid attention during black screens.
The screen is however a reflective screen which helps produce the deep blacks and vivid colors, but also produce screen glare. Whilst the high brightness helps, there’s not much else you can do about the glare except to move the unit around, which you can.
Noise-wise, this machine is absolutely silent. It’ll be hard to believe me when I say this, I don’t even believe it myself, but I can’t tell the difference between when this machine is on or off. Only when you lie your head on the keyboard, you can hear a slight noise of some fans spinning but at sitting distance it’s pure bliss. Even when I run graphics benchmarking software, both the GPU and CPU don’t seem to create any more noise. I don’t know what sort of cooling magic they’ve got going under the hood, but it’s one of the best I’ve heard so far. Absolutely perfect for movies.
Speaking of movies, believe it or not there are 5 speakers on this machine. There are 4 at the front panel and one subwoofer. Having experienced some ear-damaging notebook speakers in the past, I was a little skeptical on how this would work. Altec Lansing is of course a trusted manufacturer of reasonable speaker systems so that helped, but I still don’t think this audio experience can compare with even a $75 desktop speaker set. For one, the speakers at the front panel are extremely directional. If the screen is not tilted facing directly at you, the sound will be considerably quieter and hollow. The bass is a nice addition and produces reasonable low frequency effects, but I find because the base is not on the ground, it creates a lot of vibration on the table which could produce unnecessary rattle if you have an unstable table.
On to the software experience, the default operating system is Windows Vista Ultimate Edition 64-bit. I normally wouldn’t load 64-bit onto any of my home computers to avoid drivers incompatibility, but since it came preloaded it was guaranteed to work at least.
I was a little dissapointed by the first-boot experience. I haven’t bought or used any HP products recently so I’m not familiar with their bundling strategies, but by the looks of it, it still doesn’t look good.
The absolutely first thing you see load up on the screen aftering booting Windows, before anything else pops up, is Norton Internet Security. To be blunt, I’m not a big fan of Norton’s so I might be biased here, but in this day and age, I don’t think nagging the user with setting up a Norton subscription is the most pleasant first experience with any computer.
The default list of startups and services has 70 processes running at boot. Most of excess processes besides the Windows defaults are from Norton and a bunch of HP modules. Most of them seem appropriate to serve some sort of useful functionality so I didn’t bother fiddling with it. The high-performance processor also helps reduce its effects leaving the machine feeling pretty snappy otherwise.
On the same note, the default list of installed applications is also not a pretty sight. Most of them are actually necessary components from HP but SlingPlayer and Vongo should have been installed-on-demand rather than by default. In HP’s defense, this is obviously a sample unit produced for the US-market so the Australian version may differ.
Then I’m constantly nagged by these intermittent HP popups and reminders which happen every 5 minutes or so after initial boot asking me to purchase additional offers. I understand the whole concept of up-sell and I see how these offers may interest specific customers, I really wish there was a “do not show anymore offers” option so if I’m not interested, I really mean it.
The second hard drive actually didn’t come pre-formatted, so it actually didn’t show up until I added a partition to it, which I’m sure is just a oversight for this sample. Other than that the defaults are stealing around 50GB of space including the recovery partition.
A quick benchmark in 3DMark 2006 gives a result of 4201 which is quite reasonable for its specifications. But however for the same price on a desktop unit you’re looking at at least a 1000 to 2000 improvement in performance marks. The question is form factor over performance, you can’t have both, yet.
A quick match in my new favorite game, Team Fortress 2, proves this machine is very capable. At a resolution of 1680×1050 with every quality settings on high and 2xMSAA anti-aliasing and Anisotropic 2X, the game ran at an acceptable average of 30 frames per second. Optimally for long-term play, turning down the graphics resolution and setting will obviously increase the FPS much more.
HP also ships a software called “QuickPlay” which is prominently featured in the touch-buttons as well. QuickPlay feels to me like a bit of a “me-too” Media Center replacement. It is designed specifically for HP machines so it integrates a lot of the HP-specialty features like webcam, but it also duplicates a lot of the same functionality in Windows Media Center, rather poorly I might add. The design isn’t not nearly as intuitive as MCE. The “green button” on the remote actually still launches Media Center so the choice is still available.
There’s also a pretty cool wallpaper featuring the dragon theme which I thought I’d share.
The HDX 9000 currently retails for approximately US$3,000 in the United States. They will be launched in Australia at the end of next month in October. The recommended retail price for the HDX 9003 model is AU$4,999 and HDX9004 is AU$5,999.
This machine makes a great alternative to the living-room Media Center boxes because it is so slim, beautiful and quiet. On the other hand, for the same price you could do yourself a much more capable desktop PC which has the added advantage of future expansion. For whatever reason if you do decide to own one of these, you won’t be disappointed though.
Update: Forgot to mention the battery. Yes, this notebook actually has a battery for good-luck’s sake, because it sure isn’t for any productive use. Windows Vista reports an estimated lifespan of 2 hours in idle. From my personal experience, you’re considered lucky to finish a 90 minute. To me the battery serves as more of a UPS-system than anything else.
oh god. oh wow
I’d be interested to see what the performance of it would be up against my Asus G1S, or even the Dell 1520’s. Those, however, don’t run as silent when under full load however.
Great review. Odd that you didn’t mention the keyboard as that seems to be a big thing to review in laptops. So, it has an internal TV tuner then? How was it watching television?
@rc: Good point about the HD tuner, forgot about that. But I couldn’t test it because the TV standard is different in the US and Australia.
Wow, it’s amazing! I didn’t liked the fact it comes with Vista and the glare problem of the screen. But it looks powerful, at least to hit someone in the head. Nice review!
@long: can you keep that sample or do you have to return it? 🙂
@Macro: It’s on loan, so I’ll have to return it in a few weeks.
So graphically its rather good?
If it came in at £1100 over here I’d snap it up.
nice review! looks massive but design wise, looks good as do most hp products 🙂 I wouldnt call it a laptop… more like a portable desktop 😀
thank god they fixed their touchpad. i’ve got a dv2000 and the touchpad is atrocious on it.
That looks like a sweet, sweet hunk o burnin’ love
Great review Long! I could see myself using a system like this, probably even replacing my desktop in the future with it since it combines the functionality of both form factors. I am currently running Vista on something way less powerful than this and it comes with a 17 inch CRT and I’m pretty happy with its performance. So, using this would be a definite welcome change that would surely drastic upgrade for my user experience.
The HDX 9000 is a striking contrast to the Gateway ML3109 I recently reviewed on my blog, :D.
Wow, as a lefty, this would work great for me. It seems really nice.
Now if only they would package them with no ugly stickers, and adware, it would be perfect almost.
This really seems like a nice laptop.
@Long: I really like the wallpaper being displayed. Is there any way I can get a copy of it?
@Long: Shouldn’t have the screen been like 1900×1200 considering the size and that it was a laptop screen? Excellent review, BTW. 🙂 Keep up the good work.;)
I guess they could have used a higher resolution display but I think the resolution they chose is just about perfect for a 20″ widescreen. It’s definitely high-res but not so high that it’s difficult to read.
Any idea what price they are going to charge for this monster?
useless junk, this looks much like the iMac with an oversized keyboard, and i’m sure it will cost much more.
Hi, Long
This is very good review. I would only mention DELL XPS M2010, which costs approx. 2500EUR, with 20″ LCD and aluminium case. I cannot compare hardware characteristics now, but keyboard on dell can be detached, so that it’s more than notebook. Here is a hyperlink to product page:
http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m2010?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs&cs=ukdhs1
gosh im so jealous
Thanks for the wallpaper. ;Q
Congrats on whatever it is you did (paying off) to get to play around with this for a while.
I have the little bro to this beast. My version has The same spec. the only difference is the extra 2gb to make mine 4gb and the graphics which is 256mb dedicated nvidia.
These are really good laptops. I recommend anyone to get them. Better than the Dell XPS i had.
What about the keyboard, does it become annoying that it is “on the right side” due to the remote?
salut
je demande si vous pouvez m’aider a se connecter a internet avec un modem ADSL
mercie
that’s looking very good and very nice design
im not very good with computers but can someone tell me whats the difference between HDX9000, HDX9003 and HDX9004? i i paid AUS $4999 for HDX9000 does that mean i got ripped off? cose HDX 9004 is $5999
HP gives a lot of pre-installed softwares. Removing them and adding the ones you really use gets annoying if you tend to reimage the computer a lot. But that is one sweet laptop.
Hola from sunny Spain. I’ve just ordered one of these from my local dealer. I thought the price I’m paying, in Spain might interest you. The all up price, for me is €1999. At present I use a pretty large laptop, the Acer Aspire 1804WSMi. The screen has taken a knock, apparently, and it is out of warranty. As I have retired I no longer need such portability. Thanks for the review.
Adios from Orihuela Costa
Brian Dent
I just got my HP Pavilion HDX and my config is improved since this article written. Go to their site for details. Overall this is an impressive laptop for those that dont want to lug their cpu everywhere they go, because this is really not a “lap” top.
With the newer upgraded resolution and graphics I am pleased with the response though I am looking into getting a dual boot for XP since some of my programs run better … for now … on that OS.
There is only one noticable problem and that is playing movies on DVD that seem not to play back so smoothly .. I’ll need to consult with HP about that. Other then that this is a great buy if you buy it from the HP website for around $3,000 and will surely get cheaper with more upgrades if you elect to buy it in the future!
deseo me envien la cotizacion de esta pc.
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Shame that such a big machine doesnot have a battery with endurance – based on this review
I will soon be moving to Singapore and am looking for a lap top cum computer. It seens dragon will fill in the requirement. Where will I get the latest dragon with all the latest up dates to buy in Singapore and approximate price. Has the resolution been improved to take HDMI 1920 X 1280? Again has the processor also improved and made much faster.
Avinash
its make me mad..
oh damn is this dream
Just ordered one today. I have read the reviews and can not wait to get it!!! 512MB on the video, 4G’s on the ram and dual 250Gig hard drives. I should not need to purchase another laptop for at least 10 or 20 minutes as this one no doubt will be obsolete by the time it gets here! Love the reviews!! I will report my findings when this flagship of a “laptop” comes in.
Xavier
now this is really impressive..jus what i need.but i think the price is too high,above $2000
This Computer is a magnificant machine, in that it really, under full game play, still has a large amount of computer batter power left. Since it runs on the 9 cell litium ion battery, you can do just about anything you wish to do. The only problem is the weight, like it is stated above. Mine was about 4,074.67 us Dollars, but that is a basic customization and (ie not as much as this) and a printer.
My Customizations:
Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme Processor X9000 (2.80GHz)
20.1″ diagonal WSXGA+ High-Definition HP Ultra Brightview Widescreen Display (1680 x 1050)
4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
512MB NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTS
HP Imprint Finish (Dragon) + Fingerprint Reader + Webcam + Microphone
Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection and Bluetooth(TM)
640GB 5400RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (320GB x 2)
LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support
Integrated HP HDTV Hybrid TV Tuner and 4 Altec Lansing speakers +the HP Triple Bass Reflex subwoofer
Extra 9 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Power Pack software – muvee autoProducer Premium, Cyberlink DVD Suite Premium and Serif Web Plus
Microsoft(R) Works 9.0
HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
Although I own Norton 360, and Microsoft 2007 Professional so those are not in the costs
D*mn, why isn’t it for sale in Holland ???
The Acer Aspire 9920 is the only 20″ over here.
Anyone with a comparison ?
that is a really nice HP, i got mine at http://www.consumerdepot.com great price so i couldnt resist after this review.
i have the chance to buy one of these (500gb HD) for cost price from work which is £650! seems to good a bargain to miss…
should i? shouldnt i?
I’ looking for one, how much to pay it.
Thanks
Victor Ouedraogo.
+233 244 27 31 62
i got one (HDX9003TX) on sale in Sydney, Australia.$2500.With a bonus set of cheap logitechs thrown in for good measure.
This computer is the one I type this message on, and apart from the solid feel of the keyboard, silky smooth graphics response and digital tv!!!!, it is quite heavy, but already I am smitten with the luxury screen and fast boot up. i originally priced one of these puppies in Hawaii back in July 08′ for $1599 US, yep thats right.the 4GB ram, 320 GB HD one….(T5750 processor Ithink). But couldnt get accurate postage to me as I was on duty(sailor). Anyways for a little more Aussie dosh, I walked into a Harvey Norman store 2 weeks ago and there it was, along with 3 other ascending in price models! i very happy with big ass computer. I carry it around in the front pocket of a suit bag, if you were wondering about transportation….with foam liner of course in case I drop the strong mans dream machine. i use a music notation program and the size of the screen is wonderful in sizing up the placements of markings etc…
ok enough blubbering. Go get it.It’s the biggest laptop in the world right now,and for once I have surprised my work colleagues with this baby.They say its a walking desktop computer!!!!
oh my specs?
4GB ram (effectively 3GB on 32 bit home premium)
500 GB HD (2 x 250GB)
5400 RPM, 800 Hz bus speed.
256 MB video mem.
ATI 2600 graphic card.(I have had the Nvidia8600GS and this ATI one still rocks hard)
1680 X 1050 screen.
remote,internal TV, bla bla bla…
“Ok this is gonna get weird……TWO DRAGONS! ” – Will Ferrell on Starsky and Hutch
It was a bad choice when I bought this computer from HP due the problems this computer has first the surounding era of the built in camera broke HP took care of that while was under warrenty then the integrated video card made by Nvidia stop working the screen would go blank. I called HP and they said it will cost around $400 USD to fix it and the computer around 2.5 years old searching on the net I found out NVIDIA card 8800M chipset is defective and I feel HP should recall those models and replace them for free.
I bought mine 2.5 years ago and I still love it. Got lucky, price $2,000 US, $700 off. The store accidentally received it and it was in the back room for several months. I can’t find new units online, wonder why they quit making them. As far as lugging it around, if you hold it the right way, it’s not that big of a deal. Best computer ever. I’ve been using them for 27 years.
Hi! I have a HDX9080LA. I REALLY LOVE IT!!! *0*
I know there are new and powerfull laptops, but this one still kicks all of them. The only thing I wanna know is if I can change some part to make it more powerfull.
Thanks a lot. Great review.
actually i have one……the high end type (HDX 9399sx)……….my upgrade:
-NVidia GeForce 580 GTX Graphics Card
-Windows 7 Ultimate(I already have the Windows 8 Beta)
-6TB HDD(2 x 3TB Western Digital SATA HDD)
-Intel Core i7-980X processors(3.3 GHz & 3.6 GHz with turbo boost)
-8 GB DDR3 memory
just that the upgrading…….
Hi Alex how are you ? Just read your upgrade with the HDX.
How did you do that with the NVidia card.
Hi Alex!!
Question: How do you upgrade your dragon?? I don’t know where to find information about it.
Thanks a lot.
I bought one of these in 2007.Paid around 4grand for it.Best computer ive ever had.Watch cable tv on it.Hooked my projector up to it to play games and movies with a 100 inch screen. Sound is unreal for a notebook.Recently the hard drive failed but i will fix it and continue to use it.As a multimedia hub there is nothing like it.
I bought hdx9000 6 months ago 2nd hand for only 320 bucks . But the main problem is i cant find suitable drivers for it. can any body plz give me links.
You can find drivers for it here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/515212-hp-hdx-9000-dragon-owners-lounge-part-2-a.html
See first post of that thread. It’s the best resource for the HDX on the web.
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